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"We need five million dollars. If we had five million dollars, we would solve the drug detoxification problem of the world. George Patterson is a man with a mission. Once better known as a swashbuckling journalist exposing international injustice, He now wants to tell the world about a revolutionary treatment for drug addiction called NET.
It is 100 percent revolutionary. That is why it's so significant as far as my wife's researches are concerned.
Meg Patterson was already an award winning surgeon when she began to develop a new drug free detox called neuroelectric therapy. Well then I was very, very hopeful that it was going to be the answer. For the drug problem. Now I'm convinced it is. Because in the past four years, I've improved my techniques enormously.
After years of fruitless searching for financial support and medical approval, Meg Patterson was struck down by a series of strokes. Her family insisted that the treatment was working better than ever, but official suspicion and opposition continued.
NET has been proven to be safe. It's been proven to be effective. It is the only viable treatment there is for addiction. And yet a few naysayers, um, or who are placed correctly politically have quashed this treatment. There are hundreds and thousands of people who are desperately in need of any tea and it's being withheld from them.
I think it's both infuriating and heartbreaking. When so much more could be done in drug treatment, that so little actually is being done. The resistance, the amount of resistance we've seen has been a real, a real surprise to me. Pick your worst patient and give them to us for a week, and you'll find out that it's worth doing clinical trials.
That's not real evidence, but it sure makes it worthwhile pursuing real evidence.
Recently, a Scottish charity decided to run a trial of NET in Glasgow.
If it works, This could be the final fix of the addict who has agreed to test the treatment. I know there's always going to be a craving for it, right? But I hope that it gets me through this without any pain. And at the end of the line, I can slowly build my, my future back up and stay away from drugs. We
have to be much more successful in treating Drug addiction than we are at the moment and by treatment, I don't mean just giving them another drug Which which in some sense stabilizes their lives. I mean Getting them to a drug free state Professor Neil McEgan II is an expert on drug addiction and abuse working at Glasgow University The rising figures for the UK and Scotland have got him worried one cannot be hugely optimistic because We have around about 300 or so addicts dying every year.
The equivalent of a jumbo jet full of young people crashing every year in Scotland. With, with metronomic regularity. We have huge numbers of drug users with mental health problems. We have huge numbers of drug users not working. Um, and huge numbers of drug users in prisons. Now, if you, if you say, well, what element of the harms of drug abuse have we been diminishing?
through the widespread use of methadone. I think you have to look in vain at where that is. With the ongoing failure of methadone, addiction figures have continued to spiral out of control. Some experts project a further three fold increase in the next five years. If we saw anything like a three fold increase, if we saw anything like a million addicts in the UK, then, then almost every facet of public life would, would, would be hugely influenced by the drug problem.
I mean, you can wander around this city of some 16, 000 or so addicts, and you could have the impression that we didn't have a substantial drug problem. You don't see people injecting on the streets, you don't see people overdosing on the streets. If, if we saw a three fold increase in the UK, that would be a regular occurrence.
You would see people just sitting down on the streets injecting, you would see people overdosing on the streets, you would see drug related need, paraphernalia, needlessness all over the place. Any teen can take anybody off any drug off addiction in four to ten days. That is unequivocal. In the early 1970s, George Patterson was a high profile journalist and filmmaker who made groundbreaking documentaries in the Far East, exposed international drug rings, and planned the escape of the Dalai Lama.
Then something happened that changed his life forever. A revolutionary new treatment for drug addictions was announced to the watching world, and the doctor who made that discovery was his wife. Over the next few years, George and Meg Patterson worked together to establish this new treatment. And by the mid 1970s, Dr.
Meg and her neuroelectric therapy, N. E. T., were ready for action. Soon, a string of world famous rock stars such as Eric Clapton, The Rolling Stones Keith Richards, and Who guitarist Pete Townsend were claiming that Meg's little black box had cured them of their addictions. But as media interest flared, medical opinion hardened.
It seemed the existing authorities were not about to accept this new, drug free treatment with its unlikely claims. With this machine I've taken people off with a minimum of discomfort. Alcohol, methadone, heroin, all the opiate drugs like morphine, sleeping pills, antidepressants, the stimulants, amphetamines, Ritalin, cocaine, nicotine.
And, but the only thing I would say is that it's not a do it yourself treatment. With each drug, you have to use a different type of current and a different frequency. That would seem to be a pretty astonishing claim. Oh, it is an astonishing claim. But the important thing is, in a sense, not is it astonishing or isn't it astonishing, but is it, is it factual?
Is it accurate? Is it, does it actually do that? In February 2006, the Third Step Charity decided to put the claims of NET to the test. and run a single patient trial. But first, they had to find an addict. Barry has been addicted to heroin for the last three years. After months of increasing misery, he has finally had enough.
I liked my life before I took heroin. I loved it. I loved going out on the weekends, I loved going with my mates, I loved going away places, going on holiday, all the things I did. Having money in my pocket and, you know, burning a hole in my pocket, I wanted to go and spend it on drugs, you know what I mean?
And I'm glad I did. I prefer my life like that. I don't want to have to get up and go through that routine every single day and hide away from people and hardly have any mates and all that stuff, you know what I mean? Barry has tried to give up heroin on four previous occasions. Each time he didn't make it.
The withdrawals and the cravings proved too strong.
Now he is prepared to have one last try for this program, using NET.
If it works, this will be the final fix of his life.
A quiet, leafy suburb just outside Glasgow. may seem an unlikely setting for a revolutionary heroin withdrawal. But it is here that Barry has agreed to undergo a test run of NET. I don't take the drugs to get a buzz anymore, you know what I mean? I just take it to feel normal, that's it. I don't want to take it anymore, I just want to get off it and get back to normal life and build relationships that I had before and things like that.
The house is the home of Maxie Richards. Hello, Barry. Hi, Maxie. Welcome. Goodness me. Perhaps surprisingly, this quiet and unassuming woman is one of the most experienced drug addiction workers in Scotland, regularly opening her home to addicts who want to come off. During the 20 years that I've been working with addicted people, I've taken about 1, 000 people into this house.
I've seen the folk who stay one day and go away. And the ones who don't want to go home would like to stay here forever. A team of medical helpers have gathered to participate in this non clinical trial. Rebecca Yadji, a psychiatric nurse specialising in addictions. Maxie Richards, who has watched Barry try and fail to kick his habit before.
Dr. Joan Miller, who will be on call in case of any medical emergencies. And John Mullen. Representing the third step, charitable trust. John in particular has yet to be convinced. I'm looking forward to what all the doctors have got to say, what the nurse might say. I'm the doubting Thomas, if you like. Over the next seven days, these four people and our cameras will observe the NET claims at close range.
Meg Patterson's digitised, with download keys promising relief from every drug, from cocaine to tobacco. NET. This is not a pain free treatment, but does promise at least 70 percent reduction of withdrawal pains. Lorne Patterson, Meg's oldest son and leading clinician of NET, flies in from Ireland for the trial.
He will be the fifth and most important member of the team. On the drive to Max's house, Lorne explains just how he expects the treatment to work. With a standard procedure, we don't start stimulation to the bodies as empty as possible of whatever drug's been taken. So by the time we put it on, it's going to be uncomfortable, it's going to be nervous, skin's going to be pale, it's going to start having the sweats, the eyes running, the nose running.
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is eight hours since Barry's last fix and there are now definite signs of withdrawal coming on. The pains of cold turkey, or the rattles, as they're known on the street, are a real and terrifying prospect. With no other relief in sight, Barry allows Lorne to fit the machine. The claim is that the low frequency pulse passing between the two mastoid bones will re stimulate the brain into producing its own natural painkillers known as endorphins.
These have been wiped out by the addict's frequent use of drugs. If the theory is correct, the body will literally heal itself, restoring its normal chemical balance within days and so avoiding the agony of cold turkey. OK, so that's it. You just take it. Should I just put it out of my pocket, then? Yeah.
The stimulation is going in and it's going to take a bit of time to take effect. But it's getting the body to work for itself to release those chemicals, and particularly the endorphins, the natural painkillers that the heroin has disrupted, and to bring it back so that the withdrawals that he's started to feel are significantly cushioned.
Any doubts or fears at all? Makes sense so far. I'll have to wait and see after a few days. I'll reserve my judgment until then.
Next morning, and the first person to arrive is John Mullen. He's keen to see how Barry has survived the night. Good morning, John. How are you? I'm fine, thanks, yes. Good, good. A little napping and sleep, but fine. The news is that Barry has slept at least part of the night. For an addict who took his last fix the previous afternoon, this is unusual.
The blunt electrodes are still in place, and the NET frequency still active. But Barry is complaining of discomfort, and not feeling well. That's to be expected. Today and tonight's the, the roughest part of, of the treatment. Anyone who comes off, this is the crunch time. There's always discomfort, now. It's relatively minor discomfort, and we know that because very few people actually walk out of treatment saying they can't go on with it.
Then, something happened, which came as a surprise to everyone. Barry had a fairly severe bout of bilious retching, bringing up bile. Um, And, uh, neither of us are particularly happy about, about that. There was no blood or anything? There was sleep, that's all I know. I've been sick like that before. There's two possibilities.
One is that it's related to heroin withdrawal. And the second is that it's, it's not related to heroin withdrawal. It's something that the heroin has covered up and it's now coming out. Because the heroin's no longer in the system. Is this surprising to you, that this thing? Yes, he didn't mention an ulcer.
The news that Barry has a stomach ulcer, which only becomes active when heroin leaves his system, comes as something of a surprise. I think the reason it goes away is because it's a heroin, it kills it. It's a painkiller, isn't it? So it takes away the pain of the ulcer, I think, I've been told that. He should be eating when the stuff, not anybody.
NET is in the clear, but Dr. Joan has still been called in. That's what happens every hard time I've come off heroin. What, every time you've come off heroin? Every time I've So when you're on heroin you're alright? Aye. You ever heard of that before? It's true. The boots are made for walking.
So how long would you say I was going to be feeling quite rough for? Three days? Basically, you've got the rest of this day and the night It is approaching 20 hours since Barry's last dose of heroin, and Lorne is convinced the machine is working. What we're doing with NET is getting someone through both the acute and the chronic withdrawals within the period of a week, so that they leave.
Feeling physically well, mentally clear, and emotionally stable, and ready to proceed into rehabilitation. But Barry's not at that stage yet. He's very unsure about something new. Terrified of the rattles. Actually terrified, maybe tomorrow they'll come, or maybe they're with me now, this is the beginning of it.
That kind of thing. And it, it really hasn't hit him the way it normally does. If Barry hadn't had any medication and had not been put on the machine, by this point in time, I would have expected him to more than likely have left. People who need to use and are getting no comfort, or if they've got no medication or they need their medication topped up, will not stay.
Are you still glad you came through to Still no bit of regret. Because I don't want to go on living like that, you know what I mean? I'd rather be clean than go through a wee bit of pain. For seven days it's not, the rest of my life is, it's only a week or something that I'm going to feel this, so I'd rather do that than just keep taking it.
But if NET does prove effective, where has it been all these years? In the late 1960s, Meg was experimenting with acupuncture at a charity hospital in Hong Kong when she first came across the earliest possibilities of NET. When Meg brought it to me, I said that, uh, She was on the edge of some major medical discovery and said it arose from the electro acupuncture that she was experimenting with at that time and needed addicts.
I thought that she was out of her mind. But Meg was convinced that her theory worked and continued to push forward her research. Well, then I was very, very hopeful that it was going to be the answer for the drug problem. Now I'm convinced of it. Because in the past four years, I've improved my techniques enormously.
Now back in the UK, British Medicine took its first look at Meg's new treatment. Early interest was encouraging. Frankly, we were sceptical. But certainly the evidence we have would suggest that the slow frequency involves the release of endorphins, whereas the fast frequency, electro stimulation, tends to stimulate different pathways, different neurotransmitter pathways.
But they both have an effect? They both have an effect, yes. You see, forgive me saying so, the whole thing sounds incredible. Well, as I say, we were very sceptical to begin with. Others remained sceptical, and gradually, the British medical establishment closed its doors to Dr Meg and her machine. I have no problem at all with their scepticism.
Scepticism is an appropriate response. There is, however, at this point, a large body of literature which says that Dr This does have an effect on the human body. Now, whether that effect can be applied in a clinical setting in order to treat drug addiction is a reasonable question. So, we take some addicts and we take, put them into a clinical setting and apply the treatment and see whether it works or not.
The second day of NET. Lorne is scoring various symptoms. A daily chore which provides a valuable record of just how the patient is feeling at every stage of the treatment. It is now 40 hours since Barry took his last heroin. I took over this shift about tea time last night and from tea time to bedtime which was around 12 30 everything was fine.
When it was time for to go and have a lie down Barry wasn't pleased. However he did go and he didn't get back up and to me that speaks volumes. Restlessness, twitchiness. It varies, really. Yeah. OK. I checked the bed this morning. There was no sweating on the bed. The linen was dry. He'd made his bed on his own.
He'd made the bed next to him on his own. But, again, his first words were, I'm ill. But I could not see any sign of this. I think he's living a wee bit in fear of what might happen. And so that's making him feel bad. But I don't think he's anything like as bad as he thinks he is.
The Third Step Charity runs an art gallery on the edge of the Merchant City in Glasgow. No, sorry, we're not opening on Monday. Sorry. John Mullen has decided to get Barry out of the house and take him on a guided tour. Um, I suppose the first thing is the tiger, which hits you coming in the door. These next 24 hours, we understand, is going to be just as difficult as the last has been.
He's confused to a degree about how well it's doing, but the professionals that are around him are quite amazed. The feedback's incredible about what's actually occurring with this treatment that he's been on. Before I've come off it and I've always used drugs, I've never been able to do it, like cold turkey or whatever.
And I think with the likes of this machine, it's gonna It's taking away a lot of your thoughts and it's helping to take away the cravings and stuff like that. So it's easier for you to get through it. At this point in time, I would score this machine about 70 percent successful. Perhaps more. I'm really very pleased with the machine.
I really am. I can't wait for the next two days to see him say, Oh, my head's clear. I know that's going to happen. Give him what I've seen. I believe that's going to happen. I would say Touch wood. And hopefully that's the worst day at finish now. And it's just, slowly but surely, just working it's way out my body.
I would say it's working, definitely. I didn't think it was working to start off with, but Yeah. I can see, like, it's obviously making an impact in the difference between going cold turkey and wearing this. I think it's doing something, anyway.
Today, Barry is being taken further afield. He and Lorne are going to visit a residential rehab unit in the picturesque village of Tinnabrook. Barry has stayed at the house during previous attempts to get off heroin and is looking forward to meeting up with old friends. But first, they've got to get there.
How do you feel at the moment? Fine, just a wee bit cold. Me too. Legs are a wee bit tired, but apart from that I'm fine. Good. And this is how many, how many hours? 60 hours. 60 hours or something. He's certainly past the hump, the crisis period, which he passed that with relatively mild discomfort.
The treatment still has to be finished. Um, he's only partially detoxified. He's on the beginning of the road to recovery, but what it means now is that instead of focusing on The physical discomfort that he experienced. We're looking at him increasingly being able to, to address the next phase, which is what should be done with his life, where should he go for the help to, to look at the issues underlying and reinforcing the addiction.
It's not the detox part, it's not the NET part, but it's the critical part of addressing the life issue. The house at Tinebrook has been a lifeline for many recovering addicts struggling to adjust to a life without drugs. Recovery can be a lengthy process, and residents measure their stay in months, and even years.
The lads here have heard about Barry's new, speedy treatment, and are keen to know more. For those who have struggled through cold turkey, or drug replacement therapy, this tiny box seems too good to be true. Two and a half days into his treatment, Barry seems to be coping well. Today, there was considerable improvement.
Physically, he's more active out and about, which we encourage, of course. His mind's starting to clear up now, and he's starting to, to, to look ahead to, um, his life without drugs. So, only halfway through treatment, but a considerable difference between yesterday and today. Looking at them, 70 hours without heroin doesn't look shaky.
You're seeing something that's shaky and they're all cold and everything. It's actually You could get away with it if we said, oh, I've been off drugs for a good few weeks. You wouldn't, you wouldn't click on it, was that it? Normally if you're going through withdrawals, agitated, you can't sit at peace, you're agitated, you need to keep moving about, but he seems pretty relaxed.
The last thing you want to do is sit with people and all you want to do is just do things yourself, you know what I mean? He's eating once in a while, you normally don't eat for days, even a week, you don't eat sometimes for a week or two and he's, he's eating as quick as that, so that's amazing. Almost three days into his treatment, Barry's neuroelectric therapy has certainly impressed the recovering addicts at Tinnebruck.
But years ago, the British medical establishment seemed not quite as enthusiastic. The British anyway, the British medical, um, people are very hesitant to accept any new treatment before it's established. And as soon as I came back from Hong Kong, four years ago, I offered to do a research programme. And they said to me, uh, we are not willing to fund you for this, but we would like you to do it in your own spare time.
In other words, they want to know the results, but they're not prepared to give the prayer with all to do it. At this point, I see it that Britain, the response in Britain has been, has been very good. It hasn't been good enough, or quick enough. Uh, the Americans are coming through with facilities, uh, at the medical level, at the clinic level.
But I see a future. being facilitated in Britain through this temporary departure for the States. America has always been the country of new ideas. And in the face of an overwhelming national drug problem, the stage seemed set for a ready welcome to NET. Dr. Richard Corbett was one of the first American doctors to try it out.
24 hours after we initiated therapy and I was watching, uh, I returned, uh, to the patients, and, uh, Walked into the room and, uh, I wasn't the only skeptic. The patient was a skeptic also. And the patient very clearly looked at me and with an honesty that only the moment could capture, said to me, I just can't believe this.
And I said, either can I, you know. And there he is sitting there with no withdrawal symptomatology and, uh, dilated pupils and, uh, you know, obviously not under the influence of any drug. And, uh, you know, I had an immediate conversion experience, you know. Laughter. So if initial enthusiasm was so encouraging, why did NET not become widely established in the American medical system?
If you want to play the political game in Washington, you need to have lobbyists, you need to have lots of money to throw around. We did everything on no money. We put clinical trials together with, with, uh, renowned institutions and with doctors. We had the top doctors in America, um, falling in line and saying, this thing is real and it really works.
In any product in the world, there is an idea, There's an initial proof of concept, there's an initial technology and there's a tremendous amount of work that must be done to prepare that technology for the commercial world. That latter piece is very important and is very difficult and requires a very different skill set and that needs to take place.
I really believe it was lack of disposable income, um, that stopped it from progressing. In spite of the lack of support, Meg Patterson refused to give up. But gradually, the toll began to tell. Mom had this astonishing vision, not for just the treatment, but for where it could go, and she had the scientific chutzpah to follow it through.
Um, so it wouldn't just be lucky guesses. I mean, it was all scientific, and it was all backed up. And I think when she had her stroke, that was the end. The morning I went in, And Meg didn't respond because of her stroke.
That seemed to be a termination of everything.
George is a remarkable man. George has the capacity to extract hope from the smallest of events. He does. Um, I think that George is able to go forever because he learned a long time ago that Um, that life could be small or life could be large, and he was willing to not live a small life.
After the stroke, George decided they should move back home to Scotland. With Meg incapacitated, he realized the responsibility of moving NET forward now rested solely with him. The
Pattersons had been offered accommodation at an old people's home near Lesmahago. Pleasant though the surroundings were, It was all a far cry from the hopes and dreams of the previous few years. How do you feel? A little bit bewildered. It was so hard to, to think of this woman who had been so, uh, so intellectually quick, so, uh, So quick to grasp new concepts and see the opportunities in what she was doing, to see her having lost that, and her, to see her own disbelief in her own treatment.
That, uh, she, she could remember that she was a surgeon, but couldn't believe that she had been working with drug addicts. Now that, that was, that was shocking. Um, And, uh, and unnerving in many ways to, to realize that she had lost what had been for, for 25 years, uh, the, the main focus of, of her professional life.
Meg's health continued to deteriorate, and as her mind retreated, So did the hope of further progress with NET.
But had the pressures surrounding NET actually caused Meg's strokes? Does massive stress, unending stress contribute to that? Yes. Um, I don't blame NET. I'm very sad that she was prevented from realizing her potential with NET or NET's potential. In these other arenas.
For you what was the lowest moment?
I think with regards to NET and where it could no longer go. I think when mum had her stroke, her first stroke, because that was the end. Um, the hardest for me was when she died.
I didn't know whether I could go on.
No. Just because she had gone,
but because her vision had ended. I think he lost a part of himself. They'd been together for almost 50 years, and, uh, they were beautifully matched. Um, uh, I, I, I literally think he lost a part of himself. And to see him carry on is wonderful.
Has it all been worth it? Oh, it has to be. Why? You just ask any of the patients who have their lives. I mean, how many people does it take to have life given back to them for it to be worth it? Right? How many lives do you need to touch? You ask the one person and they'll tell you, I'm enough.
Morning, people. Good morning. How are you? Very well. How are we today? Fine. You don't seem to be attached electronically. Eh, I took it off last night, because I just felt as if I didn't need it anymore. And I'm not going to put it back on, because I don't think I need it. So how are you actually feeling now?
I mean, it's five or six days in. Fine, basically. Back to normal, really. Just the end date's finishing, and that's it, really. When you say normal, what does that mean to you? Drug free. Yeah. No dependent on anything, no need to wake up in the morning and stick anything in my arm to feel, feel like this. So where are we off to today?
Uh, Lesmahagel, is that right? To, we're going to meet George Patterson, uh, at Lonsdad. Sounds fun. George Patterson still lives in the same old people's residence where his wife Meg died four years ago. Although he's never met either Barry or Maxie. He's well informed about the current NET trial.
So what does he make of Barry's progress so far? It's remarkable, knowing something of the history, seeing him now, that he is someone that could go out and handle any kind of situation. And that is remarkable, considering that a week ago he couldn't have done anything or seen anything unless he had his head.
George, Maxie and Barry meet for lunch in a local restaurant to discuss the project with other friends and supporters. Among them is Roger Mulhewish, a Scottish doctor from Fife who has been using NET for some time. With NET, it certainly seems to be very effective. Much more effective than applying additional pharmacy to someone who is already in anguish and pain because of their drug addiction.
Whether that's to, uh, heroin, to cocaine, or to methadone, uh, NET seems to be a beautifully elegant, simple, and straightforward, and relatively pain free process for the addict to undergo. I think ultimately, it'll become the world standard, or a derivative of it, if there is an improvement from it. I think what it's sadly lacking.
How's he doing? John Mullen has arrived. He has not seen Barry for several days and is eager to check up on his progress. You could use the term bright eyed and bushy tailed. No, he's certainly OK. The stress is off his face, the straining look, the gaunt look. All the pains are away, aches are away. Yeah, I see a credible difference.
Yeah, it's fantastic. So if NET is so successful, why has it not been accepted more widely? I can only think that it's been suppressed by whoever has got other interests. Do we accuse the drug companies or whoever? But, uh, if we can get the results on 120 hours with this young man, from where he was to where he is today, why are we not using it?
It's not a miracle. It doesn't cure people of any addiction. But it certainly sets someone a clear run into the help that they need. It should be part of the system, at least part of the system of detox and getting people to the next step. What annoys me beyond description is when I see someone, you know, like Barry, who's just been treated, uh, publicly here, and seeing him come off, you know, and the potential that they have, and that that could happen.
And at the same time, when I know That here in Scotland there's almost 100, 000 addicts who are on methadone and have been on for years and are going to be permanently on for years on methadone and the potential of that 100, 000 and it's being sacrificed because of a crowd of politicians and doctors and pharmaceutical companies who won't even look at the evidence that she has produced that is available on the website for them.
If they want to know how it works or what it does. It's been done with credibility in leading institutions across the world. That angers me beyond endurance. Drug companies deal in drugs. That's their business. They would prefer a drug treatment to drug addiction. They would be threatened commercially by a non drug treatment because they're simply not set up to exploit a new treatment modality.
However, they are still focused, they're constantly focused on drugs. The, the concept of moving to an electrostimulator, which can be sold once, And then we'll work for however many years until it burns out. It's not as financially attractive to them as something they can sell, which can, has to be taken three times a day for the rest of your life.
If the profit centered focus of powerful drug companies rules the roost here in the affluent West, there are other countries where the drug replacement therapies on offer are way beyond any available budgets. In such countries.
If it's used wisely and with trained people, then it's a system which is very appropriate in Romania because it's non invasive, it's very inexpensive, and 9 volt batteries are widely available. Dr. Graham Giles is an advisor to the Romanian government on social reform. In order to combat the country's rocketing drug problem, he recently started using the Patterson machines.
At the moment, we have 18 digitalized NET devices that the Patterson family have donated for use in Romania. They're on loan for two years. The intention is to demonstrate in a clinical setting and in a non clinical setting that this can solve a polydependency problem because we don't have pure heroin addicts.
We have heroin addicts that are also taking street methadone, who are also taking methamphetamine, that are also taking ketamine, that are also smoking cannabis, that are also overusing alcohol. NET makes it tolerable to come off drugs. It doesn't remove the pain and the suffering completely. It just means that you have enough strength to be able to go through that.
But at the end of the process, you're not only clean, you're also free from cravings. The cravings have disappeared for that day, and I've never had a, I've, I'm no saying, I've never thought about hearing because I've been speaking about it, but I've never thought about it in a desirable way. It's now two months since Barry's last fix.
For him at least, NET appears to have been a total success. I'd love to see this thing actually being used in clinics and stuff like that. I mean, it would change a lot of people's lives. It's changed my life, it can change a lot of other lives, and I'd just love for this to be given the chance. I know within myself that it's worked for me, and I wouldn't sit and lie about it.
What's the point of sitting and lying about something when you can tell the truth, you know what I mean? I never expected this to To go the way it did, I just thought, right, I'll give this a bash and see what happens. But it's an amazement really, it's amazing. I just cannae thank everybody enough for what they've done for me.
So I've treated people with cold turkey. I've treated people with drug assisted. And I've treated people, somebody now with this. And this is, this is the answer. The only hole that I have found in it is that it doesn't work in 24 hours. It takes about four days. It takes about four days. So is that a problem?
No, it's not. It's much quicker than a normal detox, and no, I haven't found any holes in it. It's not a magic box. It's It's something that's complex that we spent 30 years making simple technologically. So the application is simple. And it's certainly not magic for the individual because it requires hard work.
It's bloody hard graft. It is extraordinarily difficult to find an effective treatment, but wouldn't you kick yourself if you had one and you didn't even know it and you just watched it sail on by?"